Dr. Kenneth Pervaiz and Dr. Kaiser Julius (Pakistan) discuss the doctrine of justification and the lived reality of union with Christ for believers facing marginalization in their context, highlighting how caste, class, and legalistic influences challenge the unity of the church in Pakistan. Drawing parallels with Paul’s confrontation in Galatians 2, they emphasize the importance of both theological depth and practical application for the health of the church, and reflect on how the Gospel’s power redefines identity and community across cultural boundaries. This conversation is from Theo Global in South Asia.
Dr. Keneth Pervaiz is Assistant Professor of Biblical Studies and Director of the Center of Biblical Teaching & Research at Forman Christian College, and Associate Pastor at International Christian Fellowship in Lahore, Pakistan.
Dr. Qaiser Julius is the Director of the Open Theological Seminary and General Secretary for the Theological Educators Forum in Lahore, Pakistan.
00:00 Christian identity in Pakistan
04:31 Galatians 2 and Modern Legalism
07:58 Cultural tensions over shared meals
10:01 Class tension in church history
14:16 Paul’s letter structure and Galatians
16:38 Material vs. Spiritual Blessings
20:27 Unexpected friendship at the airport
23:45 Theo Global’s impact in Pakistan

