In this White Horse Inn series, Michael Horton sits down with a broad range of thinkers—including those he disagrees with—to hear in their own words how they understand the relationship of the Christian to politics. This episode features Susannah Black Roberts, who advocates for the view of “Christian post-liberalism,” defending her position that “the purpose of earthly government is to bring those governed to their natural end: to be virtuous men and women with justice in their souls, who participate in the common good of the city; it also has the purpose of directing us to our final supernatural end, according to its own methods, in a humble way and without stepping on the toes of the church.”
Susannah Black Roberts and Christian Post-Liberalism
Series: The Church in the Public Square


Susannah Black Roberts and Christian Post-Liberalism
41 min
Series: The Church in the Public Square

Susannah Black Roberts and Christian Post-Liberalism
41 min

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Series • 4 Episodes
The Church in the Public Square
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Peter Leithart and Constantinianism
In this episode of White Horse Inn, Peter Leithart advocates for what some describe as “Constantinianism,” where the church is knit into the civic order, and where civic responsibilities are also carried out by the church and its clergy.

Gary DeMar and American Vision
In this White Horse Inn series, Michael Horton sits down with a broad range of thinkers—including those he disagrees with—to hear in their own words how they understand the relationship of the Christian to politics. This episode features Gary DeMar, who advocates that America once had a Christian heritage that can and should be recovered and that some of Israel’s civil laws should indeed govern American and Western society.

David VanDrunen and Two Kingdoms
For more than 30 years, White Horse Inn and Modern Reformation have applied the Two-Kingdoms theology recovered during the Protestant Reformation to our modern political issues. Concluding this series featuring different views on the Christian’s relationship to politics, this episode features David VanDrunen, who shares Michael Horton’s Two-Kingdoms view. Though they are not uniform in their approaches, this beneficial conversation examines the view of the Two-Kingdoms, the criticisms against it, and its practical application in the church and society.
Church and Ministry
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Vocation: God Doesn’t Need Your Good Works, but Your Neighbor Does
Scott Keith from 1517.org joins Michael Horton, Bob Hiller, Walter Strickland, and Justin Holcomb to discuss how churches can recover high views of preaching and the sacraments, as well as robust views and practices around vocation.

5 Signs Your Church Might Be Too Seeker-Sensitive
Is it wrong for a church to be seeker sensitive? Pastor Adriel Sanchez expounds on the differences between seeker-sensitive and seeker-driven churches, and why ordering our services to be palatable for certain demographics is a way of domesticating the worship of God.

A Presbyterian and Lutheran on What Most Christians Miss About Church
Episode 1582 | According to Pew Research, only 51% of self-identified Christians attend church regularly. Pastor Adriel Sanchez is joined by Caleb Keith from 1517 where they both argue that this crisis is not primarily cultural, but theological. Most Christians are simply unaware what the church actually is, what happens there, and why nothing else can replace it.

When Mother’s Day Misfires
I’ve rolled into church many a Mother’s Day morning with a heavy heart and deflated expectations. There were years of singleness, and then miscarriage, when I felt invisible in the pew, wondering if I would ever wear the title of “mother” myself. Then came holidays where I felt steamrolled by the demands of raising babies […]

